What is your point in quoting all these excerpts from the Gospel? Did they suffer from mental illness and imagine it all? Dis you read yet my comments a little bit above from this entry regarding your examples of heresy at HLM? On the contrary, my statement was quite loaded with theological references. Secondly, I wold like to clarify my own position regarding this apparition site. Von Hildebrand reiterates this. This is defiance on the part of the bishops against Christ’s Church. If I change that plan, nothing in the message needs to change, it is still applicable. Here is the quote “I have come to explain to you the Sixth Chamber. When the Church wants to speak definitely, she does so. If someone has come to this point, has no internal red flags upon hearing any of these “messages”, it follows that they wouldn’t care what the Bishop has to say. The silence they are effecting when they should proclaim loudly the teachings of the Church speaks clearly of the lack of support fo the Holy Father and his magisterium. Did she have one?That is the only way, plus obedience to the Church . The Bishop’s subjects (you and me) are bound to obey him “within the sphere of his authority.” Are you actually claiming that the Bishop of his diocese has no authority to declare whether a place is operating within the Catholic faith? Obedience. Your interpretations of HLM messages are very confused and you exhibit grave misunderstandings of Catholic theology. It is what it is. You neglect to understand–and you really should have understood from your correspondence with those whom you consulted–that danger to the true Faith lurks in a lack of authentic Catholic doctrine,or in Scriptural misinterpretation, not in externals such as rosaries, statues, or vocal prayers. Your final 2 sentences sent a chill up my spine. Yes she would, if that bishop loses his authority due to failure to uphold the true Faith. and in fact, the Holy See was consulted on this matter and appears to be with Lennon. But HLM was NOT condemned nor could it be canonically, unless there were something against faith or morals of the Catholic Church. It may be coming from an unhinged or manipulative person, or it may be coming from the demons, or it may be coming from some combination of them both. I suggest you read Aquinas on obedience instead. Pat, the visionary did and does have a spiritual director. I’ve not heard anything about this. (4) ‘There is no peace, save in the grace of My Heart’. The principle of self knowledge coming before union with God is fundamental in Catholic mystical theology.. You can find the same principle expounded in the writings of St.Teresa of Avila, and St. John of the Cross to name two others.. I hold in my hand an official, signed and sealed copy of the Bayside document–one that I personally obtained straight from the Diocesan archivist. Learn More. Thomas T. is my father. I received a booklet with them and that is when i saw these so called messages. This is so sad that people run after these “private” revelations that bring some notoriety to a person in need, while the Fatima message is no longer preached. ‘Consecration to the Cross’ means generous acceptance–even joyfully– of all the sufferings that God allows in one’s life. How can something be holy and good if it allows and even helps its people justify something so wrong. If you obey the heresy of unfaithful bishops, you are not being faithful to the Church. I did not know rcspiritualdirection I have casorosendi.com (various languages) and primeraluz.org (Spanish only) lately many of my articles are being published in Brazil for some reason, so the Portuguese section is likely to grow a bit. 3221 – You are absolutely wrong. You see, you just do not get it. 9/3/93 from “Our Lady”: “My little messenger, what I most wish to convey to you is how much Jesus I do not know where you are getting your theological understandings from, LizEst, but they are all mixed up. The organization has no approval or support from the Catholic diocese. St. Catherine of Sienna? 2) Clergy are forbidden to celebrate the Sacraments on HLM grounds. To convince this person that these “messages” aren’t coming from “Heaven”. 6/29/93 from “Our Lady”: “Forgive everything and you will not be in error.” This is contrary to our faith. Don’t you see what he’s accomplishing? Thomas Aquinas” told them all on 11/17/09 (after Bishop Lennon’s Decree): “The ‘decree’ set forth by your bishop concerning participation in this Mission here was presented as though it carried with it the charge of blind obedience. His pattern of lying is well-documented since the Boston homosexual scandal of which he played a central part. As a journalist, I care about accuracy. Give me one example of ‘circular logic’. I know my Catholic faith. I was forever changed, and there is no doubt in my Catholic heart that God and his family are on and all over those grounds. The final Church proclamation comes as no surprise. Yes, if we use our free will to sin,we, in effect, tie God’s Hands. Those interested can read it on the “Mystics of the Church” website. Unlike “Holy Love Ministries,” he was faithful and obeyed. His friend and business partner, whose farm property held a large cross and the gathering, reported that Steve and visionaries throughout the world had been called by the Blessed Mother to go to Medjugorje. "Teacher, which is the great commandment in the law?". This can become a very large problem to some folks to visit these sites, and trust in them, and can cause them to question themselves, their faith, and their church. He cut out people who questioned or criticized Holy Love. He is a very sick man. My reaction to that would of course be disagreement for what should be the obvious reason that a statement such as that is completely contradictory to Church teaching through the millenia, and can be looked up easily by opening one’s Catechism, or child’s Catechism, for that matter. So much so that when one such person DOES fulfill his office, the immediate outcry arises from a cancer that lays below. Our Blessed Mother would lead her children to understand that the virtue of obedience–true obedience as opposed to false obedience–is obedience to the true and full Faith, not to a bishop who is preventing that Faith from being learned. We can and should ask them to intercede for us and for the whole world.” (CCC 2683). I took each of her message selections and showed her that each one was clearly in accord with Catholic doctrine, and I also suggested that she bring my explanations to an orthodox Catholic priest to get guidance from him. They want to see young people; they want to see [and hear] beauty.” She feels being in the choir is a call from God to reach out across the world to those who want to see the love of God. Also, what you interpreted about those messages shows that your thinking is clearly boggled. Are they being disobedient? We need to pray for our bishops in this country. Copyright © 2020 Eternal Word Television Network, Inc. Irondale, Alabama. Are the Maureen Sweeney-Kyle apparitions approved. Biden has frequently referenced his Catholic faith during his political career, and placed his Catholicism at the center of several campaign ads during the 2019-2020 presidential election cycle. I admire your fortitude! I just find it so sad that this place is set up right beside a genuine Apparition Site here In Ireland. Copyright © 2020 EWTN News, Inc. All rights reserved. There are no ‘half truths’ in what HLM puts out. Since he does not “forbid” it, people can therefore go and it also means HLM is not “condemned.”. It was officially approved on December 8, 2010. http://www.shrineofourladyofgoodhelp.com/htmPages/g_hst_p3.html. What I almost certain of is that he does not reveal that he abandoned his family for this ministry. To this day they are not approved by the Church. No ecclesiastic has the right to water it down, to distort it, to misinterpret it,–purposely or otherwise. He just doesn’t like it. This place made me a better Catholic and its saving souls. I never heard of the holy love ministry but it’s obvious that they don’t teach the faithful correctly since everyone that is defending them is mainly using emotions rather than reason. But obviously, his Bishop did not have good intentions. It is not a command to obedience. Whether its films, documentaries, news coverage or lively discussion shows, we highlight the truth that is the Eternal Word. I am obedient to God first and am fully aware of being discerning. In addition to attending their local parish, Angelo and Bette Attanasio watch Mass every day on EWTN. The text is: “As the deer longs for flowing streams, my soul longs for you, O God.”. But the consciences of the saints told them to obey their bishops and/or superiors when they were unfairly treated or disciplined. They have the beautiful Rosary of the unborn. If Rome asked this bishop to send a report and based upon his observations, this is not a true apparition site, best to obey. God answers prayers. Give a Gift SubscriptionBless friends, family or clergy with a gift of the Register.

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